"Our modern, virtually unqualified, enthusiasm for liberty forgets that liberty can only be the ""the space between the walls,"" the walls of morality and based upon morality. It is sensible to argue about how far apart the walls should be set, but it is cultural suicide to demand all space and no walls." ~Robert Bork 1996 It is worthwhile to note from where morality comes. Who defines it and why? The laws of nature and nature's God come to mind. Liberty and morality complement and support one another, neither will last very long without the other. ~Adverse Yaw